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3 comments:
Wait a minuet here. I really don't think that bring a titan to the table automatically unbalances the game. It is really all in how you play your army and your titans. If you are of the camp that Titans are just platforms to bring as many strength D shots to the table then yes you will cause problems with your opponents. No one likes getting spammed by strength D templates. But in the other hand if you bring a balanced titan you can have a decent game. I have a Warlord and 6 Warhounds and beyond the first turn of a game I have never had many serious complaints on their performance in the game. In the 6 Warhounds I think I only have 5 Turbo Lasers and my Warlord armament is one Turbo Laser, A Apocalypse Missile Launcher, A Volcano Cannon and either a Quake Cannon or a Gatling Blaster. I could have built the Warlord with 2 Turbo Lasers and 2 Laser Blasters putting 10 strength D 5" templates on the table. Would that be fun for me? Maybe once,... maybe. But that will never be fun for my opponent. Any one who thinks this game is just about himself needs to go back to sitting in front of his computer. In the first game I played with my Warlord it got taken down by a combination of close combat with elite units, flybys by several Dark Eldar Raiders with Lance weapons inside my shields and finally going toe to toe with a Khorne Brass Scorpion. Most of the Damage was done by the first two units which both came from players with relatively small armies. My Warlord did a lot of damage that game but I really don't think it tipped the scale on the outcome and a lot of people got to help kill one of the biggest targets in the game. Now I am not saying that as the owner of a titan you should field it to let your opponent kill it with no thought to it help you winning the game but at the same time you shouldn't field it to totally crush your opponent either, there needs to be a balance here. Titans should enhance the game for everyone on both sides turning a large game of 40k into an epic struggle to win the battlefield.
Greg
I don't know if "It all started with Forgeworld" is exactly correct. I'd say it all started with Mike Biasi.
http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Resin_Vehicles_&_Titans
Matt
Greg:
I don't think I said bringing a Titan automatically unbalances a game. In fact you made my point for me time and again in your post. I am referring to players using Titans with no regard for the effect on the game or their opponent.
I am talking about people who show up to Apocalypse games with Warlords kitted out with all "D" weapons. The do not care about game balance, only winning. You said it best:
'I could have built the Warlord with 2 Turbo Lasers and 2 Laser Blasters putting 10 strength D 5" templates on the table. Would that be fun for me? Maybe once,... maybe. But that will never be fun for my opponent. Any one who thinks this game is just about himself needs to go back to sitting in front of his computer."
And that is EXACTLY my point!
Alec
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